Very few people make it because it's something that makes you realize just how sad an atmosphere we live in.
Ever since the Republicans successfully made it embarrassing to be liberal, everyone that wants to win takes positions that are on right side of the political spectrum.
Political compass analyzed it perfectly, as far as I'm concerned:
I even made a little 'X' for where I sit. But I can tell you I won't be voting for Ralph Nader, even if he sounds sane to me.
Turns out I'm Purple!
At a swag I'd put myself at (2,-7) if I have my x,y axis correct... Maybe (1,-4) or even (-1-4) depending how one defines the terms.
As I said very recently:
If I started to map my beliefs and how they fit to various political positions I'd need an n-dimensional chart with footnotes everywhere.
-chris
When I took that test it turns out I'm to the left of Nader. I don't trust it 100% though, as it's based on statements made by the candidates which can be interpreted multiple ways without nuance, and their actions can be vastly different from their initial promises.
I still think it's a pretty accurate snapshot.
What's the url for that?
Political Compass
Then you go down to 'Take the Test' just below the first header. Or if you want to see the Primary candidates, that's even further down.
Pretty long test but it cuts to the point. And it even shows past leaders and where they're situated.
I think it's pretty comprehensive.
Pretty close. Turns out I am purple, Somewhere aound the intersection of Jose Zapatero Street and Nelson Mandela Avenue...
Though I could see myself answering a lot of those questions a notch either way. Best to do these things quickly and not let yoursef think about them.
-thanks!
I can't believe I'm more liberal than Nader. I took the test a while ago, and my score was like -9, -8. But I'm in good company with Gandhi, Mandela, and the Dalai Lama.
Yeah, that's where I am. Between Mandela and the Dalai Lama.
Which means that they forgot to ask me my opinion on God-Kings.
I have little faith in a system that puts Ron Paul closer to authoritarian than libertarian.
'Libertarian' views are mainly economic (e.g. taxes, withdrawal from the WTO). On that matrix social issues are on the vertical scale and economic issues on the horizontal. His stance on social issues are mostly conservative - pro life, pro gun, anti immigration. However, he scores better on these than the other republicans as he simply says leave it up to the states to decide.
Wow Obama and Hillary are right next to each other.
That's shocking to you? They don't seriously diverge on any substantial policies. Yea, their healthcare initiatives are different but the differences pale in comparison to anything that the Right has come up with.
Dali Llama (or however you spell that) I am also a huge populist, which is probably why Edward's platform appealed to me the most.
I was to the left of the Dali Llama too!
That makes me smile.
voting for Nader if BO is the Dem candidate.
Just saying.
Because he's polically closer to Hillary? HA! Having met Hillary at least three times and known people who know her well, lets just say Obama is a lot closer than good ole Ralph's beliefs.
On trade and certain economic issues, Clinton actually is closer to Nader than Obama is, and Clinton's record on "ending corporate welfare" and "making government work for everyone, not just the rich or powerful" is one of the best in the Senate, and certainly better than Obama's record.
You can study their respective records here:
http://www.progressivepunch.org/members. jsp?search=selectScore&chamber=Senat e&scoreSort=lifetime
who said Barack Obama was closer to him on Meet the Press.
But whatever. This argument is stupid.
Vote for whoever you want.
When did he say that? I'm curious, because when I last saw him on MTP he was lambasting both Clinton and Obama and suggesting that Edwards was more in line with his positions.
Has he appeared on MTP since then and spoken more favorably about Obama?
In any case, I do agree with your last statement. It's just that I've always found Obama's trashing of Hillary over NAFTA to be completely disingenuous and one of the reasons I was turned off by his campaign.
I'm very sorry to hear that. Will you at least try to get a Democratic House and Senate?
as long as s/he did not support Obama.
In that case, thanks for leaving our generation with a massive military debt and broken-down health care system!!! You're the greatest!!!!
Democratic party.
Therefore, you are doing more than your job of following this:
> > Step three: As the Democ-rat nomination narrows in on a candidate crank up the heat. Your ident that supports the winning candidate should be a total ass to the losers. The loser ident should start calling for a voter boycott on the winner.
AMY GOODMAN: What do you think of Barack Obama's recent endorsement by Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy, along with Congressmember Patrick Kennedy, his son, and his niece, Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of President John F. Kennedy? This is the Obama campaign commercial made by Caroline Kennedy. CAROLINE KENNEDY: Once we had a president who made people feel hopeful about America and brought us together to do great things. Today, Barack Obama gives us that same chance. He makes us believe in ourselves again, that when we act as one nation we can overcome any challenge. People always tell me how my father inspired them. I feel that same excitement now. Barack Obama can lift America and make us one nation again. BARACK OBAMA: I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message. AMY GOODMAN: Your response to Caroline Kennedy's endorsement and her comparison of Barack Obama to John Kennedy? RALPH NADER: Well, I think it's an inspirational message. I think the Kennedys made the right move. I think they have been simmering quietly over the years about the behavior and performance of Bill Clinton. I think that's part of the shift away from Clinton to Obama. Whether it means more votes remains to be seen, but it certainly has given Obama a higher profile for a few days.
CAROLINE KENNEDY: Once we had a president who made people feel hopeful about America and brought us together to do great things. Today, Barack Obama gives us that same chance. He makes us believe in ourselves again, that when we act as one nation we can overcome any challenge. People always tell me how my father inspired them. I feel that same excitement now. Barack Obama can lift America and make us one nation again.
BARACK OBAMA: I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.
AMY GOODMAN: Your response to Caroline Kennedy's endorsement and her comparison of Barack Obama to John Kennedy?
RALPH NADER: Well, I think it's an inspirational message. I think the Kennedys made the right move. I think they have been simmering quietly over the years about the behavior and performance of Bill Clinton. I think that's part of the shift away from Clinton to Obama. Whether it means more votes remains to be seen, but it certainly has given Obama a higher profile for a few days.
Hillary Clinton is a corporate Democrat. There's no better evidence of that than the Fortune magazine cover story in June of last year, which basically said business loves Hillary. Hillary is a big business candidate.
RALPH NADER: My assessment of Barack Obama is that he knows what the score is in terms of the male distribution of power. He knows what he has said in the past about the Israeli-Palestinian issue and the need for Palestinian rights and a two-state solution. He knows that this war was a criminal war in Iraq and we've got to get out of it in a responsible, expeditious manner. He knows that corporations have too much power over workers and consumers and small taxpayers and elections and the government.
I hadn't heard that interview, so thanks. It seems to me that Nader, like so many other progressives, hasn't done due diligence on Obama's positions, his economic advisers, or his Wall Street connections. I freely admit that both candidates deserve the label "corporate Democrat" (there aren't all that many who don't) and if I thought that Obama would do any better than Hillary on I/P issues, I would feel better about his campaign. But it seems to me that Obama once held positions the were progressive and was somewhat sympathetic to Palestinians when those were politically advantageous positions to take. But now, not so much. I would like to be wrong, because in all likelihood Obama will be the nominee.
